Chiquitasode: A World Without ICE

In this episode, Yvette moderated a panel focused on the case to abolish ICE featuring Bianca Santos, an attorney at Pangea Legal Services, Clara Long from Human Rights Watch, and Yadira Sanchez, an activist from the California Immigrant Youth Justice Alliance. They discuss the history of ICE as an agency, how we can live towards a world without ICE, and the administration’s recent targeting of undocumented political activists.

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Bianca Santos, Pangea Legal Services

Growing up in an immigrant family and community, Bianca is dedicated to furthering the human rights of all migrants. Bianca joined Pangea in March 2014 after a year of volunteering with the organization. Prior to her work at Pangea, Bianca was the Program Director for the International Migrants Bill of Rights (IMBR) Initiative.  During her work with the IMBR Initiative, she led the revision of the IMBR text and commentaries, the drafting of an IMBR handbook, and the creation of indicators based on the IMBR.  The IMBR and accompanying materials are published in the Georgetown Immigration Law Journal, Volume 28, Fall 2013.  Her work with the IMBR began in law school, where she worked with three international universities in an IMBR-focused conference in Geneva. Her commitment to the IMBR continues as she currently sits on the steering committee of the IMBR Initiative.  She received her undergraduate degree cum laude from Rice University (’05) and her law degree cum laude from Georgetown Law School (’11). Bianca is licensed to practice law in California.  She speaks English, Portuguese, and Spanish.

Clara Long, Human Rights Watch

Clara Long researches immigration and border policy with the US Program at Human Rights Watch. Prior to joining Human Rights Watch, she was a Teaching Fellow with the Stanford Law School International Human Rights and Conflict Resolution Clinic. Clara has researched and advocated for human rights in Bolivia, Brazil, Panama, and the United States, including litigation in the Inter-American system. She is the co-producer of an award-winning documentary, Border Stories, about perspectives on immigration enforcement from both sides of the U.S.-Mexico border. She has represented detained immigrants with the Florence Immigrant and Refugee Rights Project, and covered Venezuela as a freelance journalist. Clara graduated with honors from Harvard Law School and holds Masters degrees from the London School of Economics in Environment and Development and from Stanford’s Graduate Program in Journalism. Long speaks Spanish, French, and Portuguese.

Yadira Sanchez, California Immigrant Youth Justice Alliance

Yadira Sanchez is a coordinator and organizer with the California Immigrant Youth Justice Alliance. She has long been personally and politically invested with Bay Area youth activism to stop unlawful deportations and curb the human rights abuses of ICE, including a highly publicized campaign to stop the deportation of her own grandfather at the hands of ICE. CIYJA is a state-wide alliance of immigrant, youth-led community organizations from San Diego to Sonoma County that aims to create solidarity amongst immigrant communities and work with other anti-enforcement and anti-criminalization movements across California. The organization seeks to establish progressive and diverse immigrant, youth-led organizing efforts in California through the development of community-based, undocumented immigrant youth organizations. CIYJA is invested in supporting educational organizing and advocacy efforts by the member organizations for the enhancement and improvement of the lives of immigrant youth and their families in California. Yadira has also been heavily involved in education, especially for undocumented and marginalized youth, and organizing for domestic workers’ rights.

18: Desperate to Get Away

On this episode, Cynthia and Yvette discuss the terrible prospects facing Henry – a teenager formerly involved with MS-13 now facing deportation after cooperating with the FBI. For the case segment, they dive into the facts of Scott v. Harris – the case that held that a police officer ramming into a vehicle during a car chase was not a violation of a constitutional right. They get into the doctrine of qualified immunity and share their recent experiences in Puerto Rico and Puebla, Mexico.

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Current Event: Henry’s Deportation

Read the in-depth story on Henry here: A Betrayal: The teenager told police all about his gang, MS-13. In return, he was slated for deportation and marked for death by Hannah Dreier. It also has a video interview with Henry. They’re both extremely well done.

If you understand Spanish, check out Radio Ambulante’s Postal de San Salvador to better understand the cotidian impacts on living in El Salvador, where gangs dominate society. They also have an English transcript of the episode on their site.

Here’s a good read on the origins of MS-13 and an overview of Trump’s uninformed opinions: What Trump Doesn’t Understand About MS-13 by J. Weston Phippen

Case: Scott v. Harris

Read the entire opinion and read a case summary here.

Here’s an article that goes over how the Court has used the “qualified immunity” doctrine to inform other cases: Supreme Court Sides with Police Office Who Shot Man in Car Chase by Adam Liptak

It’s difficult to watch but here’s Scott and Harris going over the car chase:


  • Yvette recommended the film Viajo Porque Preciso, Volto Porque te Amo. See the trailer below but note it’s in Portuguese
  • Cynthia recommended Queer Eye on Netflix. Trailer below too!

Chiquitasode: No Nos Vamos a Regresar

Grab your tissues because las Cerebronas interview the OGs – their parents – for this chiquitasode. They share their experiences of immigrating to the US – the pain, the successes, and the luck. We made this episode with a lot of love so we truly hope you enjoy! Note: Most of the episode is in Spanish.

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17: Rest in Power Marielle Franco

On this episode, Yvette and Cynthia discuss the tragic and infuriating murder of Marielle Franco, break down the DeShaney v. Winnebago County DSS case, a due process decision born of a tragic incident of neglect that led to a young boy having permanent brain damage, and share what “democratizing knowledge” means to them.  They shame Brazil for its genocide against afro-descendants and the US for its unwillingness to affirmatively act for its people. 

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Current Event: Assassination of Marielle Franco

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Marielle Franco, Councilwoman in Rio de Janeiro

Read more about Marielle Franco’s advocacy, death, and response here: “Say Her Name: Marielle Franco, a Brazilian Politician who Fought for Women and the Poor, was Killed. Her Death Sparked Protests Across Brazil” by Kiratiana Freelon on The Root.

“Killing of Rio de Janeiro Councilwoman Critical of Police Rattles Brazil” by Ernesto Londoño includes the quotes from President Temer. Read it here in The New York Times.

To learn more about the military intervention in Rio de Janeiro read this: “Brazil’s Military is Put in Charge of Security in Rio de Janeiro” by Ernesto Lodoño and Shasta Darlington in The New York Times.

Case: DeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services

Read the full case and listen to the oral arguments here.

Joshua DeShaney.

Linda Greenhouse wrote a column on the legacy of Joshua’s case after his death, “The Supreme Court and a Life Barely Lived,” for The New York Times, read it here.

To learn more about the international human rights case mentioned, read here.


Yvette recommended Loaded: A Disarming History of the Second Amendment by Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz. Buy it on Amazon here.

Cynthia recommended folks consider fostering and/or adopting.

16: Borders Aren’t Natural

In episode 16, Yvette and Cynthia shine a light on ALEC, the organization responsible for legislation like “Stand Your Ground,” reject a world with borders, and explain the recent case that permits indefinite detention of certain immigrants awaiting deportation. They warn against ALEC’s insidious agenda, discuss the importance of the right to travel, and shame the court for not finding indefinite detention unconstitutional.

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Current Event: ALEC’s Anti-Protestor Legislation

Read more about ALEC here.

Deep Thoughts: Borders 

Read an Op-Ed in the Atlantic on a world without borders here.

Case: Jennings v. Rodriguez 

Read the Jennings v. Rodriguez decision here. 


Yvette recommends Real Housewives of Atlanta and the book “Imagined Communities: Reflections on the Origin and Spread of Nationalism” by Benedict Anderson.

Cynthia recommends utilizing the Calm app for meditation and general relaxation purposes.

15: Call It What It Is

For episode 15, Cynthia and Yvette take it back to 1857 when the Supreme Court ruled that Dred Scott, or any black person, could not be a citizen of the US (a decision later overturned by the 14th amendment), call out the FBI’s racist practices, and dive into “gaslighting.” They note the importance of unpacking the US’ horrific history of slavery, point out the dangers of complacency around government surveillance, and give tips for how to recognize when you are being GASLIGHTED.

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Case: Dred Scott v. John Sandford

Get a quick overview of the case and read the full opinion here.

Here is the video of Ben Carson referring to enslaved people brought to the US by violent force as “immigrants.”

Current Event: “Black Identity Extremist”

Read about the FBI’s category here:

Read more about past targeting of black organizations and leaders by the FBI here: The FBI’s War on Civil Rights Leaders by Jeffrey O.G. Ogbar

Deep Thoughts: Gaslighting

The 1944 movie!

Here’s an article that goes over gaslighting: From Theater to Therapy to Twitter, the Eerie History of Gaslighting by Katy Waldman


Yvette recommended watching the Maze Runner (trailer below) which is in theaters now!

Cynthia recommended supporting and buying art from @iuneveno_art (see below)! #supportblackart

Also, check out the dope podcast ¿Qué Pasa, Midwest? which is a bilingual podcast about Latinos in the Heart of our Country. If you want to hear stories of immigration, Latino art and culture, Latinos in the military and more, check it out.

Chiquitasode: People Carry Different Wisdom

In this final chiquitasode of the 3-part Harvard Law “Advocating Across Communities: Shared Identities, Struggles, and Imaginations”conference series, we interview Professors Montoya and Zuni Cruz about the indigenous tradition of talking circles and the inspiration it created for the dialogue circles at the conference. They emphasize the importance of listening and creating space for all to contribute.